Обсуждение манги "Bakuman"

[Верт]

Тема для обсуждения перевода и новых глав манги "Bakuman".

[Taka no Me]

Page 161: A breather and a party

Hattori tells Ashirogi not to worry as both Reversi and Zombie Gun are selling well, just that Zombie Gun is selling absurdly well. Hattori says that he, too, is wondering about why such a great disparity exists, but says that he'll leave that discussion to the next time they meet. They meet on Friday, and Hattori says that the reason why Zombie Gun is selling so much is because it's byy Niizuma Eiji, the mangaka of CROW, the long-time JUMP flagship, and there are many who would buy the volumes even if they don't buy JUMP, jut because it's his new manga. Shuujin points out that there are many people who don't buy the magazine but just the volumes, and that while CROW typically sells 1.5million a volume, PCP sells 500k at most. Shuujin says that it can't be help, but Saikou disagrees. Saikou reminds Shuujin of how he said that a flagship manga should at least sell 1million/vol. Shuujin says that he meant that for series that are a little more established and have more than one volume published. Saikou reminds them their goal is to become the real top, defeating Eiji and Zombie Gun. Hattori agrees, saying that they should aim to be the top in both the Jump questionnaires and volume sales., and says that he believes that with REVERSI, they stand a good chance of getting far in terms of both these goals.

The issue is that while they're doing well on the questionnaires and the volumes are selling, it's not selling as well as Zombie Gun. Nevertheless, they must make sure they don't get hasty and make a big mistake instead. Saikou points out that Shuujin's stories get more interesting the more you read them, thus making for the kind of manga that are actually better read in batches (volumes), which was the reason why TRAP and PCP were republished more bit by bit. They also discuss how REVERSI is popular among the average age group of the JUMP readership, but has less popularity among the girls compared to Zombie Gun, and the content is too difficult for kids. Hattori suggests they try and make the explanations less complex and try to use less difficult vocabulary. However Shuujin thinks that's a bit difficult as difficult words are cooler, so Hattori says to dumb it down but not to the point of changing the flavour of the manga all together. Shuujin suggests having a mascot character, something they can use to draw omake pages with to entice people to buy the volumes. Saikou suggests having breather chapters, less serious chapters in between the heavier chapters, which can also be used to develop the characters further, something like the stand-alone chapters that aren't stand-alones.

Meanwhile Yuujirou is rejoicing at Eiji's, thinking that at this rate it's possible to even hit 4million per volume. Eiji states matter-of-factly, "it's impossible". Yuujirou asks Eiji why he thinks Zombie Gun is selling better than REVERSI, and Eiji says it's because each chapter of Zombie Gun is in and of itself a good read. Yuujirou concludes that this makes Zombie Gun more interesting to read as a volume, but Eiji disagrees. Yuujirou repeats the question and Eiji gets irritated.

Shuujin is taking notes, thinking that by taking note of and correcting these minor details, it will all pay off, though whether or not they can catch up to Zombie Gun's flying start is a different story altogether. Saikou agrees with Hattori that they shouldn't be too concerned, and just make Reversi as enjoyable as they can, until the very end. Saikou notes that in TRAP and PCP's cases, the core concept never changed, and as a result the series got more and more popular, and says that as long as they continue writing REVERSI in the same way, all that matters is that by the very end, they've beaten Zombie Gun.

The next day, the female assistant (Katou) has a request for Ashirogi. Her friend wants Ashirogi to help get an invitation for the joint party for the two big awards - Tezuka Award and Akatsuka Award. Ashirogi has been invited every year since getting serialized, but they've never attended because the year end period is rather busy. Saikou rummages for the invitation card, and says that he thinks that as long as you have the invitation card, you can bring as many friends as you like with you. The head assistant has been to the party twice in the past, and he tells them how grand the party is and etc. The male assistant with long hair (Moriya) thinks about how Hattori didn't seem to like his latest manuscript much but still helped him submit it for the Tezuka Award anyway, though he hasn't received any news so far. The editor of Three had also told him it was too "dark," which probably explained that result.

Saikou points out that since Eiji is a judge for the Tezuka Awards, he would definitely be there. Saikou suggests going, even if it means that they have to delay their deadlines a little. The head assistant says he has to go to work at Three so he'll pass on the party. The other 3 assistants, as well as Katou's friend and Kaya will be going to the party with Ashirogi. Katou's friend's name is Kitami Ririka, and she's a budding seiyuu. She smiles at Saikou. Seeing the displays of the winning pieces on the walls, Moriya understands why he lost, though he's still sad that he didn't even get into the final selection.

The group kinda inadvertently splits up, and Saikou, Katou and Ririka are left alone together. Ririka asks Saikou if he has a girlfriend. Saikou gives a sort of vague reply, "well...". Katou tells Ririka that Saikou's girlfriend is the super popular seiyuu Azuki Miho, and Saikou is a little embarrassed and asks Katou not to tell anyone that. Ririka is surprised that Saikou is Azukyun's boyfriend, then says she thinks they'll be the couple of the century and that she feels like leaving (which she does). Saikou then talks to Takahama, and the topic of Eiji comes up.

Meanwhile Eiji is in the middle of a mob of people, who seem to be representatives of various animation studios, who are trying to fight to animate Zombie Gun after the CROW anime ends in the summer. Eiji is wearing a ribbon (prize ribbon) on his head that says "Tezuka Award Judge, Niizuma Eiji". Saikou wonders if they will be able to ever beat Eiji and Zombie Gun. Shuujin appears just then and says that it must be because of Eiji's reputation once again. Shuujin says they have to make REVERSI their big hit so they can match up in terms of reputation.

Eiji leaps up upon seeing Ashirogi, "LONG TIME NO BLEACH!" (his usual) He tells them how REVERSI is ultra interesting, and how he's been losing in the questionnaires week after week, especially as of late, but declares that he will rise above them in the questionnaires, and will also definitely not lose to them in volume sales. Eiji says he'll see them again at the new year's party.

Saikou is happy that they came for the party because he got to hear Eiji's declaration that he wouldn't lose to them, particularly with regards to volume sales, which Eiji was already leading in. Saikou was also happy to hear that Eiji thought REVERSI was ultra interesting "especially as of late". This shows that even Eiji knows that at this rate, REVERSI could overtake Zombie Gun and turn the tables. Ashirogi declare that they will close the gap between them and Eiji.

[jemanni]

Глава понравилась, я уж думал будет интрига с этой подругой Като, но как то все обошлось.

[Gensoku]

Обложки последних 2-ух томов не радуют. Просто перерисованные страницы из манги(
Хочется опять обложки в духе первых томов - персонажи за работой.

[RedStar]

Почитал последнюю главу. Что-то быстро подруга помошницы отступилась от Сайко, лишь узнав, что у него есть девушка - Азуки. Чуется мне незря эту новую девицу в сюжет ввели. Бьюсь об заклад ее используют в какой-нибудь последней арке, в конце которой Сайко и Азуки поженятся.

[StrikeDragon]

Цитата: Сообщение от RedStar  Почитал последнюю главу. Что-то быстро подруга помошницы отступилась от Сайко, лишь узнав, что у него есть девушка - Азуки. Чуется мне незря эту новую девицу в сюжет ввели. Бьюсь об заклад ее используют в какой-нибудь последней арке, в конце которой Сайко и Азуки поженятся.

Но это уже классика манги

[Изумруд]

Прочитала последние главы, порадовалась за Хирамару и Аоки

[traxexox]

Рейтинг: 9.74/10(афигеть...) Всего голосов: 1229 (на ридманге)
одако там же в топе её нет =) странно

шонен всегда у меня ассоциировался с файтингом,как я понимаю в Бакумане этого нет?

Ухх,скоро оценю

Upd:
Афигеть....первая манга,том которой я так долго читал.....
З.Ы. по 1 тому судить рано,но высокую оценку Бакуман заслуживает однозначно.

[jemanni]

Оффтоп

Давно хотел это спросить: traxexox, тебе сколько лет?

[traxexox]

Цитата: Сообщение от jemanni  Давно хотел это спросить: traxexox, тебе сколько лет?

Оффтоп

Есть личка,там возраст,там даже контакт есть,к чему расспросы??

[Изумруд]

traxexox, читай, манга хорошая, я все манги бросила кроме Ван пис и Бакуман))